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  1. This is the discussion and feedback thread for the Star Wars Timeline. If you spot any mistakes or omissions, or have any other suggestions for us, this is the place!
  2. Andy

    Guide to Star Wars canon

    While wading through the treacherous universe of the Star Wars saga, you will inevitably have come across the word "canon", but just what does that mean? What is Canon? The short answer is that Star Wars Canon is the official story of the Star Wars universe. The longer, more specific answer, is that the official canon consists of the Star Wars movies, The Clone Wars and Rebels animated TV shows, and any material published after 25th April 2014. There are a few exceptions to the above rule, and how we got here needs a little more explanation. The Expanded Universe Shortly after Disney acquired Lucasfilm and the Star Wars franchise, the Lucasfilm Story Group was created to redefine canon by decided which stories and events are officially recognised as being the true story of Star Wars. As a result, the vast majority of the Star Wars Expanded Universe (now known as Star Wars Legends) was stripped of it's canon status. If you're not familiar with the Expanded Universe, it was a multi-layered monster of interconnected stories, some of which were more important than others. George Lucas and Lucasfilm did not originally set any standards when it came to canon, so by the early 1990s that job had been taken on by the publishing division, Lucas Licensing. Unlike the equal status of the current canon, the Expanded Universe has several levels: G-canon (standing for George or Gospel, depending on who you ask) included the movies themselves, and any statements or explanation from George Lucas himself. Anything that contradicted the movies was definitely not canon. T-canon was created for The Clone Wars television series, and would have included other television projects, had they materialised. C-canon, or Continuity canon, formed the bulk of the Expanded Universe. Novels, comics, games, cartoons, and television movies usually fell into this category. S-canon is secondary canon, and was usually older material that predated efforts to ensure continuity. It was mainly used for reference where it wasn't contradicted by something higher up the list. Many older stories were promoted to C-canon. D-canon was used for material from the Star Wars Detours animated series. N-canon was not considered canon, such as the Infinities stories. It's worth noting that George Lucas never considered the Expanded Universe to be part of his vision for Star Wars, and described the movies and the EU as being two separate worlds. So there you have it, you are now fully armed to explore the Star Wars universe and know whether you are reading official canon or not!
  3. Andy

    RIP Expanded Universe

    Unless you had been hiding under a rock this week, you should have heard about the revelation that the Star Wars Expanded Universe is no more. The EU has been reclassified as non-canon and rebranded as "Legends". This puts many fans in a difficult situation, not least the dedicated editors of Wookieepedia who now have the tough challenge of recategorizing thousands of articles that have been suddenly been deprecated. On a personal level I am quite fond of the EU, after all I started reading the New Jedi Order before I'd even seen the original trilogy (yes, really), and my early experiences with the online Star Wars fandom brought me to the Books & Comics section of the old official message boards. The Expanded Universe was not perfect by any means; dubious plot lines and unbelievable characters ran alongside the inevitable continuity error, making the EU a difficult beast to handle at times. But the level of detail that took the galaxy far far away beyond that world we see in the movies made it a fascinating universe to explore, seemingly limitless and almost impossible to know every detail of. When Episode VII was announced, EU fans everywhere were apprehensive about the future of our beloved franchise, and rightly so. There are many stories in the EU that would have made brilliant adaptations to film, but they wouldn't add any mystery or suspense for fans, which is part of what a good movie needs to work. Now we need to look to the future and remember that the stories we have enjoyed over the years will always stay with us, along with the friendships we have made through our mutual love of the Star Wars universe. Mourn them do not, miss them do not. The books will be with us, always.
  4. Mara

    Who Should Be Next?

    Well, with the news that Thrawn would be rejoining the Star Wars canon, I thought it might be fun for us to banter over who should be next from the EU/Legends to gain entrance into Star Wars canon, whether in film form or TV show form or other media form. I think you guys obviously know who I want. (But I find that one doubtful... depending on what and when we find out more about Luke's backstory post-ROTJ and pre-TFA). But what are some others?
  5. Upcoming novel, Lords of the Sith by Paul S Kemp will introduce the character of Moff Mors, Del Rey editor Shelly Shapiro has confirmed. Shapiro described the character as an Imperial who is an "extremely capable leader" and "also happens to be a lesbian". Previous instances of same-sex relationships in the Star Wars universe have had a degree of ambiguity, such as Karen Traviss's addition to the decanonized Legacy of the Force series of Goran Beviin and Medrit Vasur, two Mandalorian men who were in a committed same-sex relationship and intended to marry.The reference was felt to be very subtle and many readers missed it completely. Same-sex relationships have also been explored in Star Wars gaming: BioWare's Knights of the Old Republic series allowed players to form relationships regardless of gender. But the message has been inconsistent, too: When the game series' spiritual successor The Old Republic launched, only heterosexual relationships were allowed, with the words 'gay' and 'lesbian' being censored with BioWare reasoning that they did not exist in Star Wars universe. The MMO's expansion pack Rise of the Hutt Cartel​ reintroduced same-sex relationships, but wa criticized for seemingly segregating the galaxy's LGBT citizens to a single planet. During an interview with Big Shiny Robot Shapiro welcomed the introduction of further diversity in the Star Wars universe. She stated that the addition of the character wasn't about making a statement, explaining that more diversity "just makes sense". Author, Paul S Kemp, similarly praised the new-found inclusiveness of the Star Wars universe. Star Wars: Lords of the Sith, by Paul S Kemp, is available from 28th April 2015.
  6. The new Star Wars canon will have it's first gay character added with the release of Star Wars: Lords of the Sith this April.Upcoming novel, Lords of the Sith by Paul S Kemp will introduce the character of Moff Mors, Del Rey editor Shelly Shapiro has confirmed. Shapiro described the character as an Imperial who is an "extremely capable leader" and "also happens to be a lesbian". Previous instances of same-sex relationships in the Star Wars universe have had a degree of ambiguity, such as Karen Traviss's addition to the decanonized Legacy of the Force series of Goran Beviin and Medrit Vasur, two Mandalorian men who were in a committed same-sex relationship and intended to marry.The reference was felt to be very subtle and many readers missed it completely. Same-sex relationships have also been explored in Star Wars gaming: BioWare's Knights of the Old Republic series allowed players to form relationships regardless of gender. But the message has been inconsistent, too: When the game series' spiritual successor The Old Republic launched, only heterosexual relationships were allowed, with the words 'gay' and 'lesbian' being censored with BioWare reasoning that they did not exist in Star Wars universe. The MMO's expansion pack Rise of the Hutt Cartel​ reintroduced same-sex relationships, but wa criticized for seemingly segregating the galaxy's LGBT citizens to a single planet. During an interview with Big Shiny Robot Shapiro welcomed the introduction of further diversity in the Star Wars universe. She stated that the addition of the character wasn't about making a statement, explaining that more diversity "just makes sense". Author, Paul S Kemp, similarly praised the new-found inclusiveness of the Star Wars universe. Star Wars: Lords of the Sith, by Paul S Kemp, is available from 28th April 2015. Click here to view the article
  7. Star Wars canon has been redefined, and what was the Expanded Universe will now become available under the "Legends" banner.Disney and Lucasfilm have announced that the old Expanded Universe is no longer canon, to give the storytellers of Star Wars Episode VII and onwards more freedom to create exciting new stories for fans. The EU has not been totally swept away, though, as elements of it have been preserved as part of the new canon in Disney's new animated series Rebels. Recognising the popularity of the EU, old publications will still be available under a new "Legends" banner and will still be open to be adapted into the new canon. Del Rey will continue as the publisher for Star Wars adult fiction, and future novels will be part of the new official canon. The first novel announced, by John Jackson Miller, is fittingly titled A New Dawn and will tie-in to Star Wars Rebels, and show how Kanan Jarrus and Hera Syndulla came together. It is scheduled for release as an eBook and hardcover novel on 2nd September 2014. Three more titles have been revealed: Tarkin, by James Luceno. 4th November 2014.Heir to the Jedi, by Kevin Hearne. January 2015Lords of the Sith, by Paul Kemp. March 2015It's a brave new world for Star Wars, and we'd love to hear your thoughts on this development. Click here to view the article
  8. Andy

    A New Dawn for Star Wars canon

    Disney and Lucasfilm have announced that the old Expanded Universe is no longer canon, to give the storytellers of Star Wars Episode VII and onwards more freedom to create exciting new stories for fans. The EU has not been totally swept away, though, as elements of it have been preserved as part of the new canon in Disney's new animated series Rebels. Recognising the popularity of the EU, old publications will still be available under a new "Legends" banner and will still be open to be adapted into the new canon. Del Rey will continue as the publisher for Star Wars adult fiction, and future novels will be part of the new official canon. The first novel announced, by John Jackson Miller, is fittingly titled A New Dawn and will tie-in to Star Wars Rebels, and show how Kanan Jarrus and Hera Syndulla came together. It is scheduled for release as an eBook and hardcover novel on 2nd September 2014. Three more titles have been revealed: Tarkin, by James Luceno. 4th November 2014. Heir to the Jedi, by Kevin Hearne. January 2015 Lords of the Sith, by Paul Kemp. March 2015 It's a brave new world for Star Wars, and we'd love to hear your thoughts on this development.
  9. Not sure if anybody saw this yet, haven't had time to write up a proper article for.the homepage, but it seems that a new group has been formed to sort out the inconsistencies in the current hierarchy of canon... Could this mean that Disney ARE planning to keep the EU intact after all? http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/01/07/lucasfilms-story-group-are-working-on-defining-a-single-coherent-canon/ This post has been promoted to an article
  10. Leaked plot details from the upcoming final episodes of The Clone Wars television series appear to introduce the Sith homeworld... but not as we know it.Korriban has been enshrined in the Star Wars expanded universe as the homeworld of the Sith race and littered with ancient temples dedicated to the Dark Lords of the Sith, but The Clone Wars seems set to establish the Sith homeworld as "Moriband". Originally the Sith homeworld was said to be Ziost, but this was later clarified (or maybe retconned) to be a later capital world of the Sith Empire, with Korriban being their planet of origin. Dromund Kaas has also the distinction of being a Sith capital world. Could Moriband simply be another of several major worlds in the long history of the Sith? Or is this a sign of things to come, as major alterations to Star Wars canon creep their way into the mainstream media. Disney have remained tight-lipped on the changes to the expanded universe so far, but there are whispers that almost everything past Return of the Jedi is to be wiped clean, with major characters being used as templates for characters in the new sequel trilogy and all-encompassing continuity. Click here to view the article
  11. Korriban has been enshrined in the Star Wars expanded universe as the homeworld of the Sith race and littered with ancient temples dedicated to the Dark Lords of the Sith, but The Clone Wars seems set to establish the Sith homeworld as "Moriband". Originally the Sith homeworld was said to be Ziost, but this was later clarified (or maybe retconned) to be a later capital world of the Sith Empire, with Korriban being their planet of origin. Dromund Kaas has also the distinction of being a Sith capital world. Could Moriband simply be another of several major worlds in the long history of the Sith? Or is this a sign of things to come, as major alterations to Star Wars canon creep their way into the mainstream media. Disney have remained tight-lipped on the changes to the expanded universe so far, but there are whispers that almost everything past Return of the Jedi is to be wiped clean, with major characters being used as templates for characters in the new sequel trilogy and all-encompassing continuity.
  12. The current system of Star Wars canon is based on a hierarchy with the movies at the top and other media having less importance, and being ignored when it contradicts anything above it in the pecking order. The new Lucasfilm Story Group has been convened to sort out the inconsistencies in the current hierarchy system and create a single definitive version of canon. Leland Chee, long-time keeper of the Star Wars expanded universe holocron continuity database is part of this new team, along with Pablo Hidalgo. Does this mean that reports of Episode VII ignoring the expanded universe are untrue? If Disney and Lucasfilm are hoping to create a single version of canon then the only other way to achieve this would mean scrapping huge swathes of the expanded universe altogether, a move which would be likely to anger fans.
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