2008 Races

[Chickenman 9]

Palin's been keeping her religious convictions on the down-low.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/08/pal...stor/index.html

Some Pentecostals from Assembly of God also believe in "faith healing" and the "end times" -- a violent upheaval that they believe will deliver Jesus Christ's second coming.

I think it'll be a good thing to have a leader who wants the Apocalypse to happen soon, especially while we have troops stationed in the Middle East.

Palin now attends the Wasilla Bible Church. She was there on August 17, just days before entering the national spotlight. David Brickner, the founder of Jews for Jesus, was a speaker. He told congregants that terrorist attacks on Israel were God's "judgment" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity. Brickner said, "Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. When a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment -- you can't miss it."

So she keeps good company.

And yes, Obama had the same problem with crazy pastors, but I think anytime you add Jews for Jesus into your argument, you automatically lose the argument.

Her campaign says she doesn't mix her faith with government business. But Palin did ask her audience to pray for a $30 billion natural gas pipeline she is on a mission to build in Alaska.

That's...a really good example of mixing faith with government business.

Pastor Ed Kalnin, the senior pastor of Palin's former Pentecostal church, has also come under fire for his comments. In 2004, he told church members if they voted for John Kerry for president, they wouldn't get into heaven. He told them, "I question your salvation."

The Assembly of God issued a statement online in response, which said Kalnin was "joking" when he suggested "Kerry supporters would go to hell." The statement went on to say: "We do acknowledge in hindsight that it was careless, and we do apologize for that. This statement is not written as a defense, but as a clarification."

That is such a funny joke! OMG

I mean, there's not much of a set-up or anything, and he really doesn't say anything particularly humorous, but whatever.

I've got another one:

Why did the nonbeliever cross the road?

To go to hell!

I do like how they basically said "Yeah, we probably shouldn't have said that. But we meant it and stand by it. Suck it, b****es!"

[Radioactive Isotope 29]

so, stand up for your beliefs--particularly unpopular ones--and be labled as crazy, racist, homophobic, intolerant, ect. or appologize when said beliefs offend someone, and look like a wimpy flip-flopper. can't win either way, can ya? :p

[Drake 53]

I'm a Christian who believes in "faith healing" and the "end times."

1) I've seen people healed from prayer. One of my former pastors went to a boy in a hospital who had tried to commit suicide. The boy died. The pastor and family went in and prayed over him. No medical assistance. Several minutes went by and the boy came back to life. A young boy in my chruch was born deaf, blind, mute and later developed a skin condition. He was adopted by one of the families at church. Everyone prayed for him. Now he's completely healed. Gee, those sure sound like awefully big coincidences.

2) Just because I believe in the end of days, it doesn't mean I'm eager for it to happen. That statement was a gross generalization as I'm sure most of the article is.

[Chickenman 9]

so, stand up for your beliefs--particularly unpopular ones--and be labled as crazy, racist, homophobic, intolerant, ect. or appologize when said beliefs offend someone, and look like a wimpy flip-flopper. can't win either way, can ya?

Well, if said beliefs are racist, homophobic, intolerant, etc, then yes, you should apologize.

Being a flip flopper is different than making an intelligent decision to change your mind.

I'm a Christian who believes in "faith healing" and the "end times."

1) I've seen people healed from prayer. One of my former pastors went to a boy in a hospital who had tried to commit suicide. The boy died. The pastor and family went in and prayed over him. No medical assistance. Several minutes went by and the boy came back to life. A young boy in my chruch was born deaf, blind, mute and later developed a skin condition. He was adopted by one of the families at church. Everyone prayed for him. Now he's completely healed. Gee, those sure sound like awefully big coincidences.

2) Just because I believe in the end of days, it doesn't mean I'm eager for it to happen. That statement was a gross generalization as I'm sure most of the article is.

I have no problem with belief in either.

It's the extremesicles that I have a problem with.

Edited September 9, 2008 by Chickenman

[Chickenman 9]

Well, as this thread's gotten awkward:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...-nowhere-claim/

Bridge to Nowhere? More like "Fridge to Fauxware." Am I right?

:nerves:

[Bad furday 57]

The best comment from the article is "Change- in her pocket- you can believe in"

[Chickenman 9]

I saw that and lol'ed.

[Drake 53]

Palin should be running for president with all the spotlight she's taking up. McCain just sort of crawled into a hole and died.

Holy crap, maybe he really did. He's, like, 100 afterall.

[Chickenman 9]

So I'm sure most of you have seen this "controversy."

The actual context:

So...McCain just called his running mate a pig to make Obama look like a sexist. Classy.

[Andy 60]

I find it quite ironic that the campaign ad for McCain has that "Ready to smear" bit at the end about Obama. lol

[Ana 15]

GOP plans to keep people who have been foreclosed from voting in Michigan

More class. Just, charming, really.

[Chickenman 9]

The Republicans trying to keep African Americans from voting? I'm skeptical. :roll:

Edited September 11, 2008 by Chickenman

[Princess 35]

Amazing, see, Michigan's got one of the worst economies in the country right now. They should be trying to win us over not trying to stop us from voting.

Oh yeah, I'm REALLY sick of living in a swing state already.

[TheUnknown 39]

I posted this on Facebook, but I think it shows where the candidates' priorities are. Notice who gets the most relief. Notice also that Obama offsets the loss of revenue for lower income families with increases on the top 1%. McCain doesn't. Where is McCain going to get that money from? By cutting education? By cutting healthcare? By cutting infrastructure? Maybe by allowing the Chinese to buy more American debt to be paid by future generations?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8060900950.html

[Princess 35]

Anyone else find it funny that McCain used the same "Pig wearing lipstick" comment 4 months ago?

[Chickenman 9]

In reference to a Clinton policy too.

He's not sexist though, because there's no pretty commercial about it.

Amazing, see, Michigan's got one of the worst economies in the country right now. They should be trying to win us over not trying to stop us from voting.

Oh yeah, I'm REALLY sick of living in a swing state already.

Haha, Rhode Island votes Democrat with a higher percentage, than I think any other state. (Although our Governor, a Republican, is the President Bush of state government.) So we've kind of got our own little bubble of sanity. Occasionally a lone voice rises up, but he's quickly pelted with change and forced back in line.

:p

[TheUnknown 39]

I would love for my state to be a swing state. :puppydogeyes:

Edited September 11, 2008 by TheUnknown

[Princess 35]

Come on up to Michigan for a weekend then Unknown.

[Mara 29]

I hate being a purple state. Bleah.

[TheUnknown 39]

Then make Michigan solidly blue. :p

[Radioactive Isotope 29]

but red is so much prettier.

*go Cards!*

[Bad furday 57]

Red belongs on racecars and bikinis. Not states :p

[Chickenman 9]

Clothes should be on states, not girls wearing bikinis.

...I think. Odd phrasing there. :???:

Edited September 11, 2008 by Chickenman

[TheUnknown 39]

Funniest celebrity in Washington

Favorite line: "Mitt [Romney] has more positions than an underage Chinese gymnast." Ouch. I love it. You could easily say "John McCain has more positions than an underage Chinese gymnast."

[Mara 29]

Then make Michigan solidly blue.

Come here and try.

Anyway... anyone catch Craig Ferguson Weds. night? I rather liked his comments. Maybe I'll check YouTube for it.

Edited September 12, 2008 by Mara